Difference between 4L60E and 4L65E Transmission

What are the major differences between the 4L60E and 4L65E transmissions?  If there were a one-word answer to this question it would be strength.  The 4L65E is manufactured to handle more torque than its counterpart.  They have an identical looking case.  For all intensive purposes the 4L60E became the 4L65E when GM upgraded some key internal parts.  If you are looking to get an older 4L60E up to the 4L65E’s specs check out this old Hot Rod article.  It also increase the torque capacity of the transmission to a healthy 380 foot pounds.  This change occurred in 2001.


4L60E vs. 4L65E

Dimensions:  The 4L65E has the exact same case size and dimensions as the 4L65E.  They also bolt to the crossmember in the same exact spot.

Wiring:  Today’s modern vehicles can be a bit more difficult to deal with than their olden days counterparts.  You absolutely need to make sure that any part that you would be installing is going to be exactly compatible with the one you just removed.  LS series engines have both their engines and transmissions controlled by the ECM.  If you swap out a motor for another year or size, you’ll have to reprogram the ECM.

Gearing:  They are geared the exact same way.  They are both overdrive transmission with a final drive of .70 to 1

Structural Improvement of the 4L65E

The entire reason for the 4L65E’s existence are these structural improvements.

  • Improved with a more durable five pinion rear planetary.
  • Hardened input shaft.
  • Hardened sun shell.

If you have the option to get either of these transmissions, you’ll certainly be doing yourself a favor by getting the newer transmission.  Just be aware that if you are looking to replace a 4L60E that is behind an original through LT1 (90’s version) you’ll run into compatibility issues with the bellhousings.

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